'India may have an Egypt-like revolution soon'
Updated on Thursday, February 17, 2011, 15:51
Tags: Black Money, Baba Ramdev, Kahiye Janab
Indians have witnessed, with a painful heart, a year of scams and scandals. Now, they are witnessing something unparallel in the history unfolding across the seas. With the Arab world shaken to their core following the uprising and revolutions against corrupt regimes and autocrats, Indians too are wondering will something similar happen in the subcontinent.
At such a crucial juncture, Zee News’ Swati Chaturvedi talks to the firebrand yoga teacher-cum-politician Baba Ramdev, who has launched a crusade against the corrupt.
Swati: Welcome to Kahiye Janab. In Egypt, people have come out on the streets against corruption. In India, the government promptly sends us notices if we fail to pay our taxes, but why is the same government reluctant to even name the tax evaders who have crores of black money (stashed abroad)?
Baba Ramdev: Three years back, Hasan Ali got a notice and was asked to pay up Rs 50,000 crores for evading taxes. But now, he is living a luxurious life. However, he is not the only person (who has black money). The government is lying about thousands of such persons. About Rs 300 lakh crore worth of black money is stashed abroad. The government has lied before the Supreme Court and the country’s citizens. Some say about half of India’s GDP is transferred out of the country every year in the form of black money. This is a big issue. The Centre is in a denial mode. The government confesses that it is a big issue but is doing nothing in this regard.
Swati: Corruption in India is at its peak, but the PM only says that the situation is sad. What do you have to say on this?
Baba Ramdev: Today, India is ranked as the 4th largest economy in the world. It could become the No. 1 economy if we can root out corruption from our country.
The Centre is not honest about tackling corruption. The party, which is ruling at the Centre, has been in power intermittently for about 40 years, and it is in their rule that such a huge amount of black money was sent out of the country.
Swati: When the common man can be thrown into jail (for failing to pay taxes), why cannot the government name these big tax evaders?
Baba Ramdev: Well, the Centre has all the names who have evaded taxes. This is entirely national wealth. Now look, around one lakh people in this country are involved in illegal mining. This is not at all their hard earned money. So, it is not only an issue of tax evasion, but people are also engaged in looting national resources. The government should not merely recover the black money from them, but they must also be thrown into jail.
Swati: Today, we are faced with gigantic issues like (corruption involving) CVC and (scam in allocation of) 2G (spectrum) but (our Telecom Minister) Kapil Sibal says these are not big things. Do you believe there is any hope left for this country?
Baba Ramdev: The Centre got A Raja arrested. In fact, they have protected Raja by placing someone else in the Telecom Ministry and tampering with the documents. Raja is now getting a five-star treatment in jail. Also, how can Sibal question a statutory body like the CAG?
Five years back, people were not willing to agree that corruption is a central issue in our country’s politics. But the people are aware now. We will not tolerate corruption anymore. We will conduct a signature campaign and hold a march this February 27. We will try to start an Egypt like movement in the country sans violence. There will be a revolution in the country. People will come out on the streets. We will not tolerate these corrupt people anymore.
Swati: Egypt just witnessed a revolution. Will there be a similar movement in India too?
Baba Ramdev: Mubarak was exposed. Delhi too will wake up on February 27 when more than one lakh people will gather (to protest against corruption). The governments are deaf, dumb and blind. Can’t they see the hardship of the common man who is living in dire poverty? We will show them on March 23 something they can never imagine.
Swati: People say you are a supporter of the BJP. They question, why has a yoga guru entered politics? What do you have to say about this?
Baba Ramdev: When I started this movement, people said the corruption is not an issue. Now, it is an issue! I now conduct meetings involving around 2 lakh people every day.
Yes, I was pained when people doubted me, especially when I was trying to do something for the country. However, all that is now a dead issue. Has any politician ever got the love and affection, that I am getting, from the 120 crore people of this country?
I will teach yoga till my last breath, but I will also work to bring prosperity to this country. By 2020, India will be the top economy of the world.
Swati: You are again and again talking about corrupt people. Can you name any of these persons?
Baba Ramdev: About 90-99% of all those who are at the top of the political spectrum are corrupt. But yes, I don’t want to name any individual. These people, who are at the top of the government hierarchy, have looted the country.
In fact, I would recommend Narco tests for all citizens. Then the truth will come out automatically. I can name a few persons – two or three chief ministers and politicians – who are corrupt.
Swati: According to a research, in our current Parliament, all the leaders of the Congress party who are under the age of 30 belong to one or the other political family. What do you have to say on this prince culture?
Baba Ramdev: We won’t allow nepotism in this country anymore. They have to answer the people. Those who are saying that they will be the next prime minister, please visit villages once a year. I spend each day in a village. The poor and downtrodden people of this country will stand up one day. They won’t allow such nepotism.
Swati: Now let’s talk about one more important issue. Last year, one of the country’s highest civilian awards - the Padma Bhusan - was given to Sant Singh Chatwal. This year also, the government conferred the Padma award to Montek Singh Alhuwalia. His wife was also conferred with the Padma award sometime back. Do you think our country has become a plutocracy?
Baba Ramdev: When it comes to awards and recognition, there are only a few people who really deserve it. But most of those who praise the government usually get it. We have downgraded the importance of these awards.
The government can reward singers, but why does it fail to recognise those who have died for the country? Does Subhash Chandra Bose not deserve this award? Does Sardar Patel not deserve it? It is shameful.
Swati: Today, politicians are making a brand of themselves. Somebody becomes a representative of Dalits, while others choose some other caste. Do you feel sad about it?
Baba Ramdev: Today, Brahmins feel that I am close to them as I am well versed with shastras, while Kshatriyas feel I am like them because of my aggressive nature. Vaisyas too think I can bring prosperity to the country. Hence, the whole country is with me. On the other hand, (people who are resorting to the use of) such brand politics will (ultimately) divide the country. Whoever forms the government on such brand politics (should be asked) what have they done (for the country)?
Swati: Finally, I would like to ask about your message for the country.
Baba Ramdev: Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai; Dekhna hai zor kitna baazu-e-qaatil mein hai….
Swati: Thank you for coming on the show.
Anil Kumar Satapathy
RAMDEV IS A KIND OF GOD GIFT TO INDIA,ACTUALLY HE IS THE ONLY HOPE LEFT. PEOPLE LIKE KAPIL SIBAL IS A BLOT TO THE NATION.CONGRESS PARTY IS IN THE BUSINESS OF LOOTING INDIA AND SENDING THE WHOLE MONEY TO SWISS BANK & ITALY.THE REAL CULPRIT IS SONIA GANDHI.SHE IS THE SUPER PRIME MINISTER AND DOING EVERYTHING WRONG FROM THE BACK DOOR.RAHUL BABA IS ALSO A KIND OF JOKER.
HE IS PREACHING EVERYWHERE TO YOUNG AND HIMSELF IS A CORRUPT GUY,
ONLY RAMDEV HAS A POWER TO CORRECT EVERYTHING,THIS IS MY REQUEST TO ALL INDIANS,PLEASE SUPPORT HIM.
sanjeev - gurgaon
We are totally with Baba Ramdev. In this hour of darkness, our country desperately needed a peson like him to have the courage to speak the truth and fight for the truth. May God be kind enough to mobilise all patriotic Indians to stand behind him and fight the menace together.
Sir, we are all with you..Jai Hind
Rajib - Bokaro Steel City
Baba Ramdev ji,
We salute your every effort of health making to nation building.Baba your revolution against corrupt regime is highly admireable.Sir
but to bring change you also need a team of honest,inteligent,dedicted and secular person(not psuedo secular}.At Present we indian have two honest & dynamic leader whom we can trust.
They are Nitish Kumar & Narendra Modi.
We must givr our support to them and try to bring them at the top most post in India for clean and efficient governance.
sunil bardia - kolkata
I wish the day will come when Indians too will bring The System down. But I wish even more that it will not be led by you baba cuz you are just one of them!
Harvinder - Manila, Philippines
Baba, the country needs change and we support you in your movement.
Anshuman - Pune
Happiness Guruji. I remember vivekananda tell give me 100 youing indians, we will create a different India. Today 100 000 young Indians are asking for a leader and here we are blessed by god for ging us you.
krish harikrishnan - coimbatore
In Egypt people are of same religion but here in India there are so many different religion and caste and community that to unite them against these politician is herculean task and people like Gandhiji does not come not and then. We are so divided in thoughts and other petty things that it will require dozen men like Gandhiji to kick out these corrupt people. Even Gandhiji had to say at the end of his life that he was in favour of dissolving the congress party. IF it happens well and good. Mr Ramdeve have to also think about people working for him. How sincere and efficient they are. I have sent an email inquiring about treatment - I have not received reply from last 6 months. This is how organisation works
janak chauhan - vadodara
revolution should be to throw out Nehru family rule in India.like Mubarak Sonia and his supporters from India,start as a second freedom struggle to free India from the clutches of foreign rule and looting Indian money.we all with you.
Bhagavath - chennai
we are waiting for the golden day thanks baba as soon as possible do the same we are with you
vinay - chandigarh
Good Ramdev ,I am glad at last there is someone who is at least trying to stop corruption.But remember the people who have stashed this money overseas are also very powerful people.Ramdev will have to have concrete stretgy to firstly stem the flow of money out of India.A Egypt like revolution?It may be possible if the people stay united.But in India there are lot of traitors too,you must remember.It appears to me everything is forgotten when the General Election is on people keep on repeating the same mistake of bringing the corrupt people to power.
I am completely agree with Guru Ramdev baba statement. Congress has ruled more than 40 yrs and it has been noticed that this government is most corrupted government and its people. CAG is so reputed deptt and Mr. Kamil Sibal is saying `zero loss` money to nation. Now CBI has caught only 2 companies and accounted 22000 crores loss. Now where is Mr. `zero loss` theory founder.
We need change and and want back all nation money from all corrupted persons and politician. If nation require, we can hang all corrupted persons and politician. We need to make revolution against government specially Congress.
Shailendra - Hyderabad
All good and patriotic Indians should join Baba Ramdev s movement.A yogi has come to save us from this hell.We must do our bit otherwise future generations will curse us.Jai Hind.
dildar katoch - guwahati
I REALLY WISH,BUT INDIANS 1000 + YEARS OF SLAVERY IN BLOOD CURRENTLY SLAVES OF KHADI AND KHAKI DON,T HAVE GUTS TO SOME THING LIKE THAT,AND OTHER CHOICE THEY HAVE THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THIS DARK TUNNEL,EVERY PARTY IS AS CORRUPT AS RULING ONE.
BRIJ - NEWYORK
@hasan abbas I have donated 2500 rupees to Bharat Swabhiman and donates 200 rupees ever month instead of wasting money in other stuffs.
Bharat Swabhiman has 1 crore members like me.
Some donate 11 rs some like me donate 2500 rs and some rich and succesful patriots donates in lakhs.
Bharat Swabhiman does not accepts Black money and corrupt peoples money at all.
They were approached by some people with huge bucks to stop their campaign against corruption.
I donated to Bharat Swabhiman.Please for god sake don`t say that my money is black money because i earned every penny of it.
valve - Delhi
@hasan abbas There are 100 lakh crore of black money in India.
Baba Ramdev said it can be brought back by currency recall.Our GOVT is not doing it.
The money you are talking about which are being donated by bhakts are mostly controlled by State GOVT or Central GOVT.
Hindu,Muslims,Christian,Atheist all kind of people in GOVT controls the money that are being donated to GOVT.
I don`t know what our GOVT do with that money.
At last i want to say that Baba Ramdev respects all religion and we must respect him and join Bharat Swabhiman Andolan to fight corruption and bring back black money.
I hope you would support us.
Dhurva - India
All the predictions of Swamyji about quantum of black money,corruption prevalent etc have come true. What is seen is only the tip of the iceberg.The Govt is shielding the guilty with all its might, because it is afraid if the culprits are arrested, they will surely expose the people in power.Chor Chor Maousere Bhai !
Prakash Kirtankar - Hyderabad AP India
Baba is doing the right job. We are with him and ready to sacrifice our life for noble cause.Entire political system has to be revamped by people of India. No existing political leaders are needed because they are rotting and must be uted to save mother India. Our young generation is quilified enough for collective work and from them only innovative and refreshing ideas of govrnance has to come. The revolution of Egypt is sure to change the world.
Pradeep Kumar Mukherjee - Delhi
I appreciate initiative taken by Baba Ramdev against prevailing corruption and wish we all should come forward to support him for his action plan in this direction.It is a matter of national importance and all those love and want to see nation at high with pride must act against corruption.
Ramesh - Pune
people of the country are fed up of blame game done by 2major parties .social networking sites played vital roles in EGYPT.we need this kind of movement.WE WANT CHANGE.
piyooshi sharad - delhi
Three cheers for Baba Ramdeo. After a long-long time, a leader has emerged who is (truly) honest, selflessly fully dedicated to the cause of grass-root Indians and wants to see our motherland prosperous, free of corruption, healthy and superpower. More and more people will join him and support the cause being persuaded by him. Jai Hind!
What about the black money in India. This may be thousand times more than that stashed outside. Hundreds of temples, religious places are the safe heavens for thousands of corrupt politicians, bureaucrats and industrialist who bow down to these religious heads for their BLESSINGS. No Govt in India has the guts to touch these. Baba Ramdev is about to float a political outfit. How can an ordinary Yoga Guru do this, as it needs Crores of Rupees. Before talking about others he should first disclosed the source of his funds and assets. (pls don’t say BHAKTA’a offerings!!!). He speaks half truth and points out one section of Politicians as even a child knows every political party is corrupt, dependent on underworld, black (illegal) money, looting crores of public money for their personal use. Black money has the black history of decades and not years.
hasan abbas - Mangalore
The resolute with which Baba Ramdevji has taken up the issue is enough to ignite spark. In the interest of the Nation, the Government should take decisively and mere setting up of enquiry commission and GOM has proved farce. If the Government desires, they can very well bring an ordinance to attach the ill gotten property or frozen their bank account. I have a word of caution to Baba Ramdevji also. He or his Sanstha should not take financial or material support from the business houses or politicians.
Ettirankandath Krishnadas, Sree Kailasam, Kinassery, Palakkad – 678 701 Kerala
ettirankandath krishnadas - kinassery,
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RAJESH KUMAR - Mumbai
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH BABA RAMDEV. NOT BECAUSE I LIKE HIM AND HIS IDEA. IN FACT I WROTE 2 WEEKS BACK THAT WITH IN ONE YEAR THERE WILL BE MASSIVE CHANGE IN INDIA. MORE OVER EGYPT WILL DEFINITLY REPEAT IN INDIA AND DUTING TRANSITION PERIOD ARMY MUST STEP IN. ALL POLITICAL LEADERS MOVEMENT OUT OF THE COUNTRY MUST BE STOPPED. ALL KNOWN CORRUPT SHOULD BE ARRESTED. ALL PRESENT HEAD OF ANY GOVT AND SEMI GOVT ORGANIZATION MUST BE REPLACED WITH IN 2 WEEKS OF REVOLUTION. EVERY TOP OFFITIAL IS CORRUPT AND I STILL WANT TO GIVE ALL CORRUPT LAST CHANCE TO COME CLEAN AND HAND OVER ALL BLACK MONEY IN A SEPARATE FUND AND COME TOGETHER FOR NATIONAL BUILDING. EVERY CRIMINAL SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO REFORM. I AM SURE BABA RAMDEV WILL LEAD A PEACEFUL REVOLUTION TO ITS LOGICAL CONCLUSION. JAI BHARAT. THIS IS MY OPEN LETTER WHEN BABA RAMDEV WANT I SHALL RETURN TO INDIA AND PARTICIPATE IN NATION BUILDING.JAI BHARAT. THE NAME OF THE COUNTRY HAS TO BE CHANGED.
debashis bhattacharya - uae
I appreciate efforts of zee news... time will come for zee news to become a india best news channel .. true patriotic news ... thanks alot zee news for making aware of everybody on corruption and black mony
Mahesh Kumar Sharma - Singapore
100% fact with 100% passion is what Baba Ramdev is made of.
He is passionate about India and wants to change Indian political system to stop the deaths of 5000 childrens who die everyday and suicides of 2 lakh farmer every year.
There are many people opposing him,in my opinion all of them are traitors who oppose Bab Ramdev`s concept.
Join ``The Bharat Swabhiman Andolan/movement`` to save India.
You can start from joining the movement via Facebook.
valve - India
It is a national problem.Baba should be supported by all honest people irrespective of their political views.The wealth of India is draining out at a very fast rate.A time will come when India will be unable to pay for its imports.
JAY JOLLY - EDMONTON
In India religion has no place in politics but unfortunately there are hindu and muslim parties reprents their own agenda not the agenda of people.
Ram dev is one example.
baldev sood - toronto,canada
May God Bless Baba Ramdev and his efforts to remove corruption, poverty, and shameless politicians.
Jeff Ram Brijwasi - Toronto
I agree with the baba ji all activities are clear.
Vipin Kumar - Muzaffar Nagar
Exactly totally agreed..there must an Egypt like revolution in India also.
Sarthak Jivani -
Waiting for sataya yoga!
homer - uk
I am very much impressed with the Baba Ramdev`s agenda, persistent hard work and pray GOD to bless BABA RAMDEV with success.
I hope Baba Ramdev will educate and prepare large population to carry on his message and root out the corruption.
Only punishing the politicians is not enough but they must return the stolen money along with penalty and then they should be hanged in public. Without this it is impossible to clean up the system.
I also appreciate ZEE TV for supporting the campaign. I hope ZEE TV spare some more time slot for constructive programs to educate the nation and guide the citizens to patriotic path.
Panchal - Cairo, Egypt